Texas Tech executed a perfect game plan and knocked off top seeded Texas in what will go down as the biggest game ever played in Lubbock. It was also one of the best games of the year for the fans to watch and further has supported our notion the with or without the support of President Elect Obama, this will be the year that calls for the head of the BCS on a platter. With the Texas loss the Alabama Crimson Tide now becomes the fifth team to top the AP poll this season but we think the torch will be passed at least two more times before the final game is announced. We think one of one of those changes takes place this weekend as afore mentioned ‘Tide take on LSU in a game with some much significance that there isn’t enough room to mention it here. Let’s just say that the “Nick Sabin factor” returning to the school he screwed over to take an NFL job that we would shortly abandon only to end up in Tuscaloosa, is still on the minds of the Tiger faithful and nothing would please them more than knocking Bama’ off the top and taking over first place themselves. In Sabin’s defense one can not argue with the track record, providing Bama’ with their first top ranking during the regular season since 1980, and LSU their first National Championship since 1958, and particularly today, that seems like more than a century ago. Other games that we believe will make the BCS “fubar” are OU at A & M, Penn St. at Iowa, and the Big 12 and Sec Championship games. If you have a “shakeup” scenario let us know here or in the NCAA chat rooms.
Wednesday, November 5, 2008
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A non-BCS school would NEVER qualify for a national playoff based on an 8 team format. Who is to say Utah or Boise State isn't one of those top 8? They may well be but the people responsible for selecting those 8 teams will never pick one of those teams.
That is wrong. It's too exclusive.
Again people what your failing to realize is that when you create a playoff even using bowl games, the bowl games lose the prestige and tradition and WILL not pay no where near the money they do now. sorry to imform everyone.
the best way to do it is first do away with the BCS title game and put the Cotton bowl as the 5th BCS bowl where it rightfully belongs then take the top 4 teams after bowls are played and have a four team playoff. this way bowls still matter and sitll affect the outcome of a national championship. if for whatever reason a team loses their bowl game but remains in the top 4 (say #1 beats # 2 and # 2 drops to 4th) then they are ineligible to make the 4 team playoff
It would look something like this if the season ended today
Capital One Bowl should be the other BCS Bowl if any. Isnt that regarded as the most important non bcs bowl game out ther?
the only thing is that the bowls would be watered down and therefore would pay as much as they do in which cas schools and conferences wont let that happen. I think even the top 7 bowls included into a playoff would still not pay what they do now. Me personnaly i dont care what they pay but i dont want to see them lose the tradions and pretige they have built. I think college football bowl games are one of the truly great things in american sports.
Again people what your failing to realize is that when you create a playoff even using bowl games, the bowl games lose the prestige and tradition and WILL not pay no where near the money they do now. sorry to imform everyone.
the best way to do it is first do away with the BCS title game and put the Cotton bowl as the 5th BCS bowl where it rightfully belongs then take the top 4 teams after bowls are played and have a four team playoff. this way bowls still matter and sitll affect the outcome of a national championship. if for whatever reason a team loses their bowl game but remains in the top 4 (say #1 beats # 2 and # 2 drops to 4th) then they are ineligible to make the 4 team playoff
It would look something like this if the season ended today
Sugar Bowl-Alabama#1 vs Texas # 4 say Bama wins
Rose Bowl-USC#7 vs Penn St #3 say USC wins
Orange Bowl-West Virginia #25 vs Georgia Tech #20 says G tech wins
Fiesta-Texas Tech #2 vs Utah # 8 say texas Tech wins
Cotton Bowl-Florida#5 vs Boise St # 10 say Florida wins
now with this outcome the final poll should look something like
1-bama
2-texas tech
3-Florida
4-USC
then bama plays USC and Tech and Florida play then the winners play for it all.
This way teams like Boise state and Utah have a chance and all they have to do is win their bowl game and again if you lose your bowl game then oh well you had your chance. if you didnt make the BCS bowl then you should have won more regular season games.
I honestly would settle for a plus one at this point using the BCS system since an 8 team playoff seems highly unlikely. The SEC and Big 12 Championships right there would be an elimination game for 2 teams before the 4 were selected. This season it would obviously be the winner of those 2 with an undefeated Penn St team as well as USC. Id settle for that worse case scenario. Anything is a little better than what we have now.
Seems simple to me, but I think it could be setup to take the top 8 teams in the BCS, 1v8, 2v7, 3v6, 4v5. These would be played after conference champ games. Then the two teams getting through the bracket play for champ in rotating bcs bowl game.
Fill the other BCS bowl games with the remaining 6 from the brackets with lowest losing seeds playing each other. Then rotate bowl games from year to year, so same bowl gets the champ games
A playoff would be extremely easy. Keep all the BS bowls and play them around mid December. Shortly after those games the playoffs would begin. You would use the "best 7 bowl games"(sugar, rose, fiesta, orange, cotton, capitol one, sun etc) to host the playoffs. The champioship game would roate b/t the current 4 BCS Bowls.
The 8-team playoff would include the winner of the 6 major conferences, with a 2 team at-large. This can also be a 12 team system (similar to the NFL playoff) or a 16 team playoff (similar to NCAA Hoops).
I would perfer to eliminate the bowls and play on home fields, but the presidents would never approve it. The only way for it to work would be to keep all the lower bowls to keep the money flowing for sponsors and college presidents.
the problem is that do you honestly beleive that the sponsors are going to shell out the money they do now for a game that will be a constilaion prize? you think that schools and conferences are going to give up makeing the millions of dollars they get just for going to bowls? do you realize or did you know that last year the SEC got over 80 million just from bowls? remember its not just the school playing the bowl game that gets the money they share it with the rest of the conference. Another problem is do you honestly think that the winner of the sunbelt conference is deserving of a chance. when the champion probably isnt even ranked inside the top 50? the point is not all conference champions should be in sorry little guys. If your going to have a playoof it should be the top 16 teams ranked, no conference champion automatics
Alright here is the perfect plan and I really don't see how anyone good challenge it:
1. Have a 16 team play-off because 8 is too exclusive for a 120 team league. So have 11 out of the 16 teams are the conference champions of each respected conference. The other 5 could be at large bids to teams that came second in a conference, but are still competetive.
2. Have only one bye week and eliminate the conference championship games and have regular season play be only 12 games. This enables every school to play everyone in their conference once and have some non-conference games.
3. Divide the play-off system into 4 regions named the Rose region, Orange Region, Fiesta Region, and Sugar region. In each region there should be 4 teams for the first round the higher seed of each game is the home team and they play at home (or can play in their selected bowl region) and then the semi-final round would be played in their repected bowl region. The final four games and championship could be played in one of the 4 regional bowls or another neutral site (much like in college basketball).
4. And for all the teams that didn't make the play-offs they can maintain the current system of getting a minor bowl bid so they at least get one more game to play and get presitage as the Cotton Bowl Champions or whatever and all the sponsers can still make their money because it's all about the money.
My system is up for debate
They need a playoff system in college football. I say forget conference championships. If you finish the season in the TOP 10, you make the playoffs. I think if you have a playoff system it will have to be the top 10 teams. My reason for thinking that, Is all the UPSETS over the last couple years!
I'm not satisfied with the BCS system, but that being said its far better than the way it used to be. I mean really are all of you that young that you dont remember how it was before 1998? when at times you not only had 2 teams spliting a championship, you had on occasion 3 teams claiming national titles because before the BCS all a team had to do was finish #1 in a recognized poll. No the BCS is not perfect but at least it does force the top two team so play each other.
Someone was saying earlier about the IVY league having a playoff, well the IVY are not in Division I, they are in IAA or FCS what ever you choose to call it. and on top of that most of the time all they play is each other.
8 teams is not enough. You've effectively eliminated many of the conference champions and those who were ranked in the top 25 in the polls all year long. I believe, by seeding teams and using play-in games, you can have a 24 team playoff that includes all 11 Division 1A conference champions and 13 at large berth teams and have a playoff from the time the regular season ends through early January when the last bowl game was played.
The BCS system is an elitest farce designed to separate some teams and conferences from others. It is elitest because it effectively eliminates about 60 of the teams playing Division 1A football. An 8 team playoff takes the BCS and makes it even worse.
Open up the playoffs to about 20% of the teams as I described above (roughly the same percentage as NCAA Basketball tournemant), seed the teams and let em play. Give the top mid-majors a shot at some of the glory and money.
if USC did not lose to Oregon State they would be #1 even though they play in the worst BCS conference. The non-conference games aren't that impressive. Ohio State should have been impressive but no Beanie Wells and the wrong quarterback. Virginia plays in a conference almost as weak as the Pac 10 and they are far from the top team. You don't get any points for playing Notre Dame after what Notre Dame did last year. You have to win all your games so shutup and stop complaining.
Example (2008/2009) [Assuming Season Ends 7 Nov 2008 and Big-6 teams have won Conference Champ.]
Side A
1. [Big 12*] - Texas Tech
4. [WAC] - Boise State
3. [ACC*] - Georgia Tech
2. [PAC 10] - USC
Side B
1. [SEC*] - Alabama
4. [MWC] - Utah
3. [Big E] - West Virginia
2. [Big 10] - Penn State
Arguments against system: Well to start Texas, Tulsa, Ball State especially, Oklahoma, OkSt. could all claim better than ACC/Big E. ? mark for WAC/MWC S.O.S.'s but almost require undefeated seasons to enter playoff or another Big-6 team would be selected based on conference ranking.
playoff would be awesome. isn't bad but what is the harm in a new system if carefully thought out? Okay, playoff proposition (rough draft, error/loophole galore obviously however)
-One Bracket, 2 halves
-BCS Rankings remain intact but only the top 10 at the end of the season matter (like Nascar's Chase if you will)
-Conference Champions in Big 6 rewarded highly (conference championship games eliminate the #2 team, less controversy) and are primary factors for Big 6 strength in seeding determined by 1. record 2. strength of top 4 members of conference 3. out-of-conference play 4. dominating wins + strength of schedule.
- if a Big-6 conference without a conference championship has 2 teams with equal records then the higher ranked of the two in the BCS Top 25 enters slot.
-two non-big 6 teams are selected to fill the bracket (possible WAC, MWC). If WAC and MWC are convincingly weak, the final two teams in the top 10 not already chosen will be chosen.
- #1 seeded teams rewarded to play non-Big 6 team (possible left-over from BCS system)
-1 team from each side of the bracket rotates with one from the other every year based on strengths of the conferences (i.e. 1 strong team on side A (3 weak), 3 strong teams on side B (2 weak); one strong team from side B switches to side A in exchange for one weak team; strength determined by conferences' # of ranked teams in BCS top 25 n' out-of-conference play combined)
- conferences on sides randomly for best play based on first year trial.
ok the reason USC dropped is because texas has had a ridiculous schedule and survived 3 out of 4 top-11 teams and lost the 4th on the last play. florida moved up because they lost by 1 point to a rising ole miss team (who i think could hang with OSU[pac-10]) and then beat 4 straight opponents which included 2 top 6 teams (could argue LSU unproven) outscoring them 201-43. USC won their last 5 games (critics skeptical, wonder if USC could ever show their dark side again and be dominated if they play like they did in that first half and not be able to overcome it against a great team) but those 5 opponents have a combined 14 wins (averages to 2.8 wins per team statiscally). can't argue USC can't help it their conference is terrible so they must run the score up astronomically. They must beat Cal by at least 40 to help themselves.
Create a playoff system and make the individual games the "bowls".........FIRS T ROUND: Big Ten vs Pac Ten in the Rose Bowl.......Big Twelve vs SEC in the Cotton Bowl......Big East vs at large in the Orange Bowl......ACC vs at large in the Sugar Bowl............SECO ND ROUND: Rose Bowl vs Orange Bowl winner.....Cotton Bowl vs Sugar Bowl winner......and then the final two teams in the CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.......it makes a whole lot more sense than the current system.......more teams get to compete for the championship and the addition of the Cotton Bowl actually creates one more "elite" bowl
YES we need a freaking playoff... WHY is everyone on the JOEPA bandwagon because he has a team that has beat no one of any importance all season..so if you are a coach over the age of 101 you get a bid to a bcs game ... did not see that one in the books... did'nt we already go through this when they gave Osborne the championship when he said he would retire... WE NEED A PLAYOFF so we wont have to watch these big ten teams play past the first round.. the BIG Ten is weak and has been for a while.. the Moutain west has a better showing. We need a playoff and it should be at the least 8 teams.. I know thats alot but darn it to heck...we will be able to see who is the elite and who is just riding the coat tails of past championships.. we need to finally get this fixed.. and another thing....why do we always talk about teams beating other teams by a certain number.. a win is a win.. if USC went 12-0 and one every game by 3 they would still be a team from a crappy conference...
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